From taggart at debian.org Sun Nov 26 20:10:02 2017 From: taggart at debian.org (Matt Taggart) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:10:02 -0800 Subject: [Pkg-netatalk-devel] Bug#685878: netatalk 3 References: <201208251357.40666.csights@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: Hi, Any update on netatalk 3? Upstream appears to be 3.1.11 now. Regarding Joseph's comment about support for DDP, while it would be nice to maintain that, I don't think it should hold up getting version 3 in the archive. I think the number of people that need version 4 is many times greater than those that need DDP. If needed another netatalk 2 source package could be created later. But I would worry about upstream security support, whoever wants to take on such a task would need to own supporting it. Upstream _did_ do a 2.2.6 release on 30 Jun 2017, so maybe they are still providing _some_ support? BTW when poking around I found references to this github page https://github.com/Netatalk/Netatalk Did upstream move there? Or is it a fork/clone? There are issues in the issue tracker there too. Thanks, -- Matt Taggart taggart at debian.org From taggart at debian.org Sun Nov 26 21:13:30 2017 From: taggart at debian.org (Matt Taggart) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:13:30 -0800 Subject: [Pkg-netatalk-devel] Bug#685878: netatalk 3 and time machine support References: <201208251357.40666.csights@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <50d8a283-e6a4-9d82-24d6-b527cf5d417e@debian.org> I did some more reading about netatalk support for Apple Time Machine backups. I found this post that mentions apple plans to phase out AFP in favor of SMB over the long term. https://discussions.apple.com/message/30723500#message30723500 AFP will continue to be supported for quite a while due to it's use in older versions of MacOS, and devices like Time Capsule, etc. But the future will be SMB. It's would still be useful to have the newer netatalk3 in debian (and derivatives) to quickly be able to support the existing things out there, the SMB stuff isn't ready yet and I predict netatalk will still be useful for many years. The above post mentions that Apple has talked to the samba project about what things will be needed in order to support Time Machine via SMB. I found this bug in the samba bug tracker https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 which mentions it should become available in samba 4.8 (currently not yet released or in Debian). -- Matt Taggart taggart at debian.org