Bug#289267: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#289267: [debian-ntp] Bug#289267: ntp: NTP on ifup

[Tore Anderson]

* Peter Eisentraut

> You are expected to read the README.Debian file of every package you
> install.

  Right.  You have way too much faith in our users, including me.

> I don't know what Ubuntu has to do with this.

  You should try reading the whole bug report, then.  I would expect you
 to have no problem with it, if you've read all those README.Debian
 files...  :-P

  This bug is about copying Ubuntu's current behaviour, which is to run
 ntpdate on every ifup.  The text I initially replied to was from Ingo
 Oeser:

> The proposed solution of using /etc/networking/if-up.d/ works
> without any problem for most of your users. Actually unbuntu
> "Dapper Drake" is just doing it this way and I never had any problems.
> We fixed it for our customers the same way.

  I said the way Ubuntu does it is unsafe and that it causes major
 problems if you're unlucky like me.  Scott James Remnant of Ubuntu has
 acknowledged this, too:

> We think it's a bug in our current install; but one that is less than
> the previous bug of the clock being not changed at all.
> 
> Debian certainly shouldn't follow suit, unless they're also happy to
> have an open bug that the clock is slewed whenever a network interface
> comes up.

  (I'm fairly sure he meant "stepped" instead of "slewed" here, btw.) 

  But he pretty much sums up what I'm trying to advocate here.  I'm
 interested in Debian and Ubuntu being as excellent operating systems
 as possible, and I feel this behaviour run counter to that, at least
 when they're used on servers where you really really don't want "magic"
 things like this to happen.

Regards
-- 
Tore Anderson