Progress has been made!<br>
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* <a href="https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-pagekite/">https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-pagekite/</a> - the project page<br>
* <a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-pagekite-devel">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-pagekite-devel</a> - the mailing list<br><br>Also:<br><br> * <a href="https://alioth.debian.org/projects/collab-maint/">https://alioth.debian.org/projects/collab-maint/</a><br>
<br>Hrafnkell: in order to apply form membership of pkg-pagekite and collab-maint, as recommended by Jonas, you'll need to create an account and look for an "Request to join" link at the bottom of the sidebar on the project-page for each group. It's a long scroll for collab-maint. :-)<br>
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I am CC-ing the mailing list on this, so the quoted chit chat now becomes public record.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/30 Jonas Smedegaard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dr@jones.dk">dr@jones.dk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Bjarni and, assumably, Hrafnkell,<div class="im"><br>
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:31:36PM +0000, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote:<br>
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Have you had a chance to take a look at any of our work yet? Just wondering if there is anything else we can do to make progress with this, now that the bug report has been filed and sitting there for a little while.<br>
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Also, I was wondering if you were planning to be at FOSDEM next weekend? I'll be there, if you're around it might be nice to meet in person. :-)<br>
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Sorry for my silence. Things have just piled up around me lately - a whole slew of interesting projects I let myself get involved in, including yours! :-D<br>
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No, only now that you poke me again (and thanks for that, it helps!) did I have a look at the KiteNet concept on your website. And skimmed a bit of the surrounding as well (great gimmick Már did with his blog photo!).<br>
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Not sure if you already told about your skills in packaging. But I am pretty sure I already warned you that I am stubborn about packaging style (but quite happy to let others in on it): CDBS and git-buildpackage!<br>
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You are upstream for this code, I believe. It might be tempting to then release your code directly packaged for Debian, but I strongly recommend against that: Instead, I believe best is to keep upstream work and Debian packaging strictly separate even if both works share collaborators: You release your upstream code as sensibly versioned tarballs, and then we grab those tarballs as a packaging team, add a debian subdir, and release it for Debian.<br>
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You already filed an ITP bugreport for it. Great!<br>
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Next is to create a space for us to work. Here I prefer that we make it as easy as possible for any Debian Developer to casually contribute to our packaging efforts. It might never happen that anyone but us few team members actually do contribute directly to our packaging git, but since git is a _distributed_ VCS, there is little possibility that anyone can interrupt our work by wrong/garbled/bogus commits. So I propose that our canonical git is stored in the collab-maint area at Debian Alioth. This does mean that any non-DD (like you, I guess) need to jump through one additional hoop compared to using another hosting - but as argued above I find that this is a reasonable price to pay for making it easier to gain contributions from DDs. Here's the logic:<br>
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1) Each of you create an account at <a href="https://alioth.debian.org/" target="_blank">https://alioth.debian.org/</a><br>
2) One of you request a project for Debian packaging of KiteNet -<br>
e.g. pkg-kitenet. Also request a mailinglist "pkg-kitenet-devel",<br>
but no other services than that (not even VCS!).<br>
3) All of us join that new pkg-kitenet group<br>
4) Each of you request membership of collab-maint, mentioning as argument in the request that you need it as code contributing member of the pkg-kitenet team<br>
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We could avoid step 4 (and the annoyance of any new non-DD member of our team needing to similarly request membership twice. The benefit of this is that _all_ DDs by have write-access to collab-maint area, and I find it beneficial to us making it easiest possible for DDs to contribute.<br>
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When that's setup we can start packaging. Well, we could do that already, but I really do want us to discuss transparently so want to move to a list as soon as possible and continue from there :-)<br>
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All ok?<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Bjarni R. Einarsson<br>The Beanstalks Project ehf.<br><br>Making personal web-pages fly: <a href="http://pagekite.net/" target="_blank">http://pagekite.net/</a><br>