<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#2e3436" link="#2a76c6" vlink="#2e3436"><div>Hi Paul,</div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 18:55 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Hi Abou and the rest,
On 30-05-16 10:16, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
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I didn't check the control diff, but viewed the images and I really
find dep_lazarus_new_nr.png very nice and very clear.
I do agree completely wit that except for the dependency between
lc-qt-1.6 on lcl-gtk-1.6. For me this is legacy from when there was no
qt support for LCL on Debian. I think this should be removed.</blockquote>It can't. The dependency is there because there used to be a huge pile
of duplicate files that I removed by having this dependency tree. Most
files are in nogui, some are in gtk and only qt specific stuff is in qt.
</pre></blockquote><div>OK I remember now that we already discussed that. But isn't the right way to create a third package lcl-gui-common?</div><div>This looks more logical and could make sense if we package more LCL bakends.</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre><blockquote type="cite">
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I don't know yet where I think the link between the lcl and lazarus-src
should be (Recommends between ...)
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I do agree that lcl-1.6 should recommend lazarus-src. By the way, we
don't really need Lazarus sources, we only need LCL sources! The name
and the content is somewhat wrong. It should probably become lcl-src and
get the IDE specific code removed. This was difficult for old Lazarus
versions, but now the split between LCL and IDE is more clear.</blockquote></pre></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Ok. Do I understand correctly that you want a new package lcl-src which
contains most of the current lazarus-src, while leaving the ide stuff in
lazarus-src?
</pre></blockquote><div>Once you have lcl-src, then no need for the rest of the files. The IDE sources are not useful for users. Only LCL source are.</div><div>So in that sense lcl-src will replace lazarus-src while removing non useful files.</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre><blockquote type="cite">
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I also wonder if it is worth it to keep the lazarus-ide-gtk(|-1.6) and
lazarus-ide-qt(|-1.6) packages.
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I think it is important to provide for each clan their IDE. I personally
never used Qt IDE, but I know people that do the same with gtk+ one.</blockquote>I believe you misunderstand me here. We have meta package called gtk and
qt (without the version number). However, in one upstream version, I
think we only ship one, so the gtk-# and qt-# are non-sense on top of
gtk2-# and qt4-#.
</pre></blockquote><div>Do you mean you want to remove the meta-packages lazarus-gtk-1.6 and versus lazarus-gtk2-1.6? In that case yes we can remove the first one. Same thing for Qt.</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre><blockquote type="cite">
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PS2: note the circular dependency between lazarus-ide-1.6,
lazarus-ide-gtk-1.6 and lazarus-ide-gtk2-1.6 (and lazarus-ide-1.6,
lazarus-ide-qt-1.6, and lazarus-ide-qt4-1.6). I have a bug in my Winff
package about circular dependencies, seems like we should get rid of that
<a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg02111.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg02111.html</a>
<a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/11/msg01101.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/11/msg01101.html</a>
<<a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/11/msg01101.html*%0A">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/11/msg01101.html*%0A</a>>
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I'm not sure we can avoir such circular dependency unless we duplicate
some files or add another package.
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If I read those links, I believe the idea typically is to add the
additional package indeed.</pre><pre></pre></blockquote><div>We can make lazarus-ide depend on either lazarus-ide-gtk-1.6 or lazarrus-ide-qt-1.6 and make both depend on lazarus-ide-1.6</div><div>This way we solve the issue without adding an extra package.<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre;">--
Cheers,
Abou Al Montacir</span></div></body></html>