[php-maint] Should we ship a php5-dbg package?
vorlon at debian.org
Tue Mar 4 02:32:12 UTC 2008
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:15:04PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> On 02/03/2008, Steve Langasek <vorlon at debian.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:36:52PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > > Given the fact that there are some bug reports filled against php5
> > > which have useless backtraces I was wondering why isn't a -dbg package
> > > shipped.
> > > IMHO it could help at least to provide useful backtraces on those obscure
> > > bugs.
> > > What do others think?
> > I think it's a waste of archive space. How many of these bugs are there
> > without useful backtraces?
> A very quick look at some reports: #431044
No backtrace provided, with or without debugging symbols.
The abort happens in code not part of PHP, so debugging symbols in PHP would
probably be of minimal value.
Again, no backtrace provided. What good do -dbg packages do if no one's
providing backtraces anyway?
Heh, this one has a backtrace but isn't a bug on php.
> > Is there some reason they don't have
> > reproducible test cases accompanying them, that anyone who knows how to
> > rebuild php5 could grab a backtrace for?
> As Sean stated on his message, rebuilding PHP5 with debug symbols
> takes some time, time we should better spend hunting down those or
> other issues.
> Is there any reason why we shouldn't? (besides the one about archive
> space which IMHO is not a strong argument).
It is a very strong argument. The archive should not be bloated with
packages that no one uses. I strongly disagree with the idea of shipping
-dbg packages in the archive solely for the benefit of the *maintainers*...
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