[php-maint] Should we ship a php5-dbg package?
atomo64+debian at gmail.com
Tue Mar 4 02:46:10 UTC 2008
On 03/03/2008, Steve Langasek <vorlon at debian.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:15:04PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > #440775
> Again, no backtrace provided. What good do -dbg packages do if no one's
> providing backtraces anyway?
No one ever replied either; I haven't been able to reproduce the
problem on a test environment.
> > #434404
> Heh, this one has a backtrace but isn't a bug on php.
Copy&paste, my bad.
> > As Sean stated on his message, rebuilding PHP5 with debug symbols
> > takes some time, time we should better spend hunting down those or
> > other issues.
> > Is there any reason why we shouldn't? (besides the one about archive
> > space which IMHO is not a strong argument).
> It is a very strong argument. The archive should not be bloated with
> packages that no one uses. I strongly disagree with the idea of shipping
> -dbg packages in the archive solely for the benefit of the *maintainers*...
I don't think many users will rebuild php5 with debug symbols just to
provide a backtrace; the way php5 is currently packaged is a PITA if
you only want to build a specific part of it such as php5-cgi but not
the rest. Having php5-dbg around would benefit others than just the
maintainers, a simple apt-get install php5-dbg will save at least one
hour that takes compiling php5 when never done before (i.e. no ccache
If you are so worried about /bloating/ the archive with a -dbg package
why don't we just give a try in one upload and based on the popcon a
decision is taken? that's IMHO the fairest way to check if providing a
-dbg is useless or not.
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