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Hi Ondrej,<br>
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On 2015-02-25 09:08 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> Walther,<br>
> <br>
> I now have a GSoC student willing to work on that and it's
post-jessie material anyway.<br>
> <br>
> There's a demand, but you have to realize that Debian
Developers and Maintainers are mostly volunteers with work and
family with a limited time resources, so things happens in their
own time (unless somebody pays for the development - either with
developer time or money).<br>
</span><br>
That is perfect!<br>
I look forward to the prospect then, and appreciate the limited
time. We'll certainly consider contributing either financially or by
adding some developer time to help make this happen.<br>
Thanks so much for the feedback.<br>
<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Ondrej<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 05:49, Walter Kleynscheldt - Hetzner
(Pty) Ltd wrote:<br>
>></span><br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Ondrej,<br>
<br>
On 2015-02-24 06:36 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
<br>
> perhaps it's because you haven't contributed the side-by-side
packaging you are creating for every version?<br>
Great, if that's the reason then I'm happy and it sounds like
there just hasn't been enough demand for this or the resources to
do the work required for this, rather than a policy or technical
reason.<br>
The thing is I don't just want to backported version to be able to
co-exist next to the stable version.<br>
What would be a win for me is if the stable version got the same
treatment as the backported version and didn't provide php5, but
php[stable-version] and got installed in paths/files called
php[stable-version].<br>
Which in my opinion would make packaging and supporting the
multiple versions much easier.<br>
At the moment we have what we need to support php5.6 on wheezy (we
deviated quite significantly from the php package structure this
time around so can't contribute it unfortunately), so we're happy.<br>
I was really just asking to see if there is a way to make the
process easier for the next release upgrade.<br>
If there is enough excitement and demand for this and if we can
work with you guys for guidance and to assist with the stable
package refactor, then we'd be quite happy to contribute to the
maintenance of the backported version.<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
<br>
Walter<br>
<br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Ondrej<br>
<br>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015, at 11:21, Walter Kleynscheldt - Hetzner
(Pty) Ltd wrote:<br>
>> Hi,<br>
>> <br>
>> Can someone provide me with a reason why support for
multi versions of php isn't yet supported on Debian.<br>
>> i.e. I'm running wheezy and I'd like to test the impact
of upgrading all my sites to php5.6.5 by installing it
side-by-side to php5.4.4 (from a backported package).<br>
>> We've been manually creating packages for testing
versions of php for a while now and running it side-by-side the
stable release,<br>
>> but having to go through and updating the files in the
package (trying to get around the provides php conflicts etc) and
changing paths to include version numbers and linkages is a bit of
a pain to do after every release.<br>
>> <br>
>> What would be really nice, is if php5.4.4 was installed
as php544 (with that set as the package name and paths
appropriately),<br>
>> because then packages for php5.6.5 could be php565 etc
and be installed to paths containing the version number and
binaries or wrappers symlinked to the selected default version via
update-alternatives (similar to ruby for example)?<br>
>> <br>
>> I'm sure the complexity of the source package and the
hassle of trying to support backports would make this really hard,<br>
>> but at least then it would make it easier for those
wanting to create their own backport packages to do so without
jumping through hoops inside the source package build to
satisfy/circumvent dependencies.<br>
>> Some clarity on policy/technical limitations or other
would be greatly appreciated.<br>
>> <br>
>> thanks<br>
>> <br>
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