Hi Yaroslav, On Mi 30 Nov 2016 16:47:56 CET, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > FWIW -- I would not mind anything (new bigger team) if indeed it would > help. But I am not yet sure if it would here. IMHO it is not the team > which is needed, but rather more interested eyes/hands, and they could > belong to multiple teams at the same time. The point is that we are all working on similar variations of the same theme. I have beem maintaining NXv3 for the past five years and it will probably be in Debian stretch. NXv3 is a DDX on top of an Xserver. Then xrdp. It ships xorgxrdp. Again, an DDX on top of an Xserver. The TigerVNC... DDX on top of an Xserver. All these Xserver require desktop sessions to be able to run in them. If people start reporting problems against this DDX and we notice that reported issues are actually common to all DDXes, we can more easily say... Hey, this may rather be an issue in the desktop env than in the DDX. Quite recently, Canonical worked remote capabilities (Low GFX Mode) back into Unity [1]. Obviously, there has been a demand from somewhere to provide remote desktop capability in Unity (again). In Debian, we have some desktop envs that work better than others remotely. For the normal user this is often not comprehensible, why this DE works on that remote technology and not on another. And why that DE works, and this not. Furthermore, a colleague and I (together with a small team) are currently working under high pressure on a remote desktop solution that will support multimedia stuff. That solution will be fully free software and also packaged under the umbrella of the pkg-remote team. The Arctica Project (where this new framework is produced) will use more than one graphical backend and have preferred graphical backends for certains desktop environments. With the pkg-remote-team ML and the maintenance team behind that, I want to build a task force of people deeply involved in using Debian from remote and form a counterweight to approaches where graphical rendering always requires physical hardware and only then performs well. The team already has its mailing lists (pkg-remote-team and pkg-remote-commits) on Alioth and an IRC channel (#debian-remote on OFTC) with Git commits popping up via KGB. I don't want to persuade you, I understand all the spoken concerns. Still, I'd happily see you around on #debian-remote. Shortly, I will also blog about this new team formation, so more people may choose getting involved. light+love, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby mobile: +49 (1520) 1976 148 landline: +49 (4354) 8390 139 GnuPG Fingerprint: 9BFB AEE8 6C0A A5FF BF22 0782 9AF4 6B30 2577 1B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de