[DRE-maint] Bug#448639: Taking this to the CTTE?
Tollef Fog Heen
tfheen at err.no
Mon Aug 30 17:59:59 UTC 2010
]] Lucas Nussbaum
| On 28/08/10 at 21:31 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > Hi Daigo,
| > using /var/lib/gems is really quite annoying, and I have meant to write
| > something along the lines of what Clint Byrum wrote a few messages ago.
| > Sure, using /usr/local isn't ideal, but that's a choice that's up to the
| > local system administrator; what you're effectively doing is just
| > forcing people to jump through a hoop and having to add
| > /var/lib/gems/bin to the default path, which is really quite silly. The
| > lack of consistency with what CPAN does is also annoying as we're making
| > a distribution, not just packaging a bunch of software.
| > So, please, please change this. If you don't want to change this, I'll
| > take this to the CTTE so they can rule on this.
| While I support the idea of using /usr/local (I even submitted this bug
| back in 2007), I find it incredible that you threaten to take this to
| the TC.
Threaten? It's the place to take technical arguments that can't be
resolved by discussion, and this has been a long-standing argument with
little movement on either side.
| There has been basically no activity on this bug between december 2007
| and now. On August 26th, a Canonical employee restarts that discussion,
| and two days later, another Canonical employee threatens to take it to
| the TC? Come on! Can't we have at least one week of peaceful discussion
| before you light up the flames?
I left Canonical years ago, and I don't see why somebody's employment
would be relevant at all. I'm, as you can see, writing from my personal
| Also, I don't see anything in the bug report about the way you expect
| the transition from /var/lib to /usr/local to happen. It would be great
| to investigate this and propose something in the form of a patch if this
| issue has suddenly become so urgent for you.
That is an implementation detail, and assuming we can agree on moving to
/usr/local, I'm sure deciding on how the transition should work is
doable. It's pointless to start writing patches before there's
agreement what needs to be changed how.
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are
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