looks like 1.2 libsdl would be here forever.

[shirish शिरीष]

Dear Friends,

Thank you for working on libsdl2. I just saw the new release when it
made it's way down to testing today.

Around 6 years back when libsdl2 came into the archive, it was thought
that gradually 1.2 would cease to exist.

I just bought a newish system few days back, put debian on it  (a
net-install) and saw that libsdl1.2 is still in Debian.

I read the thread at
https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sdl-maintainers/2017-November/002661.html
which does explain a bit about why the things are the way they are but
still does not go fully into the details.

I saw that there are still a huge number of packages which depend on
libsdl1.2 to do their work.

 % apt-cache rdepends libsdl1.2debian
libsdl1.2debian
Reverse Depends:
  libsdl1.2-dev
  tuxpaint
  critterding
  freespace2
  dwarf-fortress
  virtualbox
  dosemu
  vlc-plugin-base
  tuxpaint
  sludge-engine
  simutrans
  qtads
  python3-pygame
  python-pygame
  libpt2.10.11
  openam
  oolite
  netsurf-fb
  mmpong-gl
  manaplus
  lmms
  lmarbles
  liquidsoap-plugin-sdl
  libh323-1.24.0v5
  gnugk
  libsdl-gst
  libgegl-0.3-0
  gambas3-gb-sdl-sound
  gambas3-gb-sdl
  ffdiaporama
  fceux
  ember
  edgar
  bomberclone
  attal
  tome
  powder
  dwarf-fortress
  d2x-rebirth
  d1x-rebirth
  wolf4sdl
  virtualbox
  uqm
  uhexen2
  sandboxgamemaker
  rott
  residualvm
  reminiscence
  opentyrian
  gnuboy-sdl
  libgemrb
  frogatto
  fbzx
  exult
  cytadela
  basilisk2
  atari800
  astromenace
  assaultcube
  zaz
  zatacka
  yabause-qt
  yabause-gtk
  xye
  xwelltris
  xwax
  xsoldier
  xpilot-ng-client-sdl
  xmoto
  xjadeo
  libxine2-x
  wizznic
  wesnoth-1.12-server
  wesnoth-1.12-core
  warmux-servers
  warmux
  vor
  vodovod
  vlc-plugin-base
  visualboyadvance
  viruskiller
  virtualjaguar
  vectoroids
  val-and-rick
  tworld
  tuxtype
  tuxpuck
  tuxmath
  tuxfootball
  tumiki-fighters
  tucnak
  triplane
  torus-trooper
  toppler
  tomatoes
  titanion
  tiemu
  tennix
  tenmado
  tempest-for-eliza
  teeworlds
  tecnoballz
  tdfsb
  tatan
  libtaoframework-sdl1.2-cil
  libt4k-common0
  synaesthesia
  supertransball2
  starvoyager
  spout
  sopwith
  smpeg-plaympeg
  smpeg-gtv
  libsmpeg0
  slimevolley
  slashem-sdl
  sitplus
  simutrans
  searchandrescue
  libsdl-pango1
  libsdl-gfx1.2-5
  sdlbrt
  libsdl-ttf2.0-0
  libsdl-stretch-0-3
  libsdl-sound1.2
  libsdl-net1.2
  libsdl-mixer1.2
  libsdl-image1.2
  sdl-ball
  scorched3d
  schism
  s3d
  ruby-sdl
  rrootage
  rockdodger
  rlvm
  ri-li
  raincat
  qonk
  python-pykaraoke
  python-pygame
  libvisual-projectm
  projectl
  primrose
  prboom-plus
  powermanga
  povray
  pong2
  pokerth
  plee-the-bear
  pipewalker
  pipenightdreams
  pink-pony
  pingus
  pinball
  pike8.0-sdl
  pike7.8-sdl
  phlipple
  penguin-command
  pd-pdp
  pathogen
  passage
  parsec47
  pachi
  orbital-eunuchs-sniper
  openttd
  openssn
  openmsx
  opencity
  onscripter
  libsdl-ocaml
  numptyphysics
  noiz2sa
  njam
  nikwi
  netrek-client-cow
  netpanzer
  mu-cade
  mplayer-gui
  mplayer
  mpeg2dec
  mp3blaster
  mousetrap
  moon-lander
  mokomaze
  libmlv3
  libmlt6
  mjpegtools
  liblavplay-2.1-0
  micropolis
  miceamaze
  meterbridge
  meritous
  mednafen
  mazeofgalious
  manaplus
  maelstrom
  madbomber
  luola
  ltris
  lmarbles
  lives-plugins
  lincity-ng
  lierolibre
  libzia
  libtuxcap4.0
  libtheora-bin
  epiphany
  libsdl-sge
  libsdl-perl
  libsdl-console
  libdv-bin
  libde265-examples
  python-libavg
  lgeneral
  lgc-pg
  lebiniou
  lbreakout2
  late
  laserboy
  kvmtool
  komi
  kobodeluxe
  kiki-the-nano-bot
  ketm
  karlyriceditor
  joystick
  jigzo
  infon-viewer
  ii-esu
  icebreaker
  ibniz
  hyperrogue
  holotz-castle-editor
  holotz-castle
  holdingnuts
  higan
  hex-a-hop
  heroes
  libghc-sdl-ttf-dev
  libghc-sdl-mixer-dev
  libghc-sdl-image-dev
  libghc-sdl-gfx-dev
  libghc-sdl-dev
  hannah
  gunroar
  libguichan-sdl-0.8.1-1v5
  gtkboard
  grub-emu
  gravitywars
  gravitation
  gravit
  grafx2
  gpac-modules-base
  goattracker
  gnurobbo
  libgnuradio-video-sdl3.7.11
  gnuradio
  gnujump
  gngb
  gnash-dev
  gnash-cygnal
  gnash-common
  gltron
  globs
  glob2
  glhack
  gl-117
  gemdropx
  libgegl-0.3-0
  gearhead2-sdl
  gearhead-sdl
  gav
  gargoyle-free
  fuse-emulator-sdl
  fuse-emulator-gtk
  frozen-bubble
  freewheeling
  freetennis
  freegish
  freedroidrpg
  freedroid
  freedink-engine
  freeciv-client-sdl
  freeciv-client-qt
  freeciv-client-gtk3
  freeciv-client-gtk
  foobillardplus
  flobopuyo
  libflatzebra-0.1-2v5
  flare-engine
  fische
  fim
  fillets-ng
  ffrenzy
  etw
  erlang-esdl
  a7xpg
  enigma
  enemylines7
  enemylines3
  einstein
  dreamchess
  dossizola
  dosbox
  dopewars
  libdevil1c2
  desmume
  defendguin
  dodgindiamond2
  dangen
  cuyo
  cube2
  csmash
  crrcsim
  crossfire-client
  critterding
  criticalmass
  crimson
  crack-attack
  libclansdl-1.0v5
  circuslinux
  chocolate-doom
  ceferino
  bzflag-client
  burgerspace
  bumprace
  bugsquish
  btanks
  brutalchess
  briquolo
  brandy
  brainparty
  boswars
  bochs-sdl
  bochs
  blocks-of-the-undead
  blockout2
  bloboats
  blobandconquer
  black-box
  biniax2
  biloba
  between
  berusky2
  berusky
  barrage
  ballerburg
  balder2d
  libavifile-0.7c2
  asylum
  asc
  armagetronad
  aranym
  antigravitaattori
  angband
  amphetamine
  amoebax
  alienblaster
  airstrike
  adplay
  adanaxisgpl
  achilles
  abe

It would be nice if we could pare down the list a bit so that libsdl2
could be used a bit more.

I also looked at the transition tracker
https://release.debian.org/transitions/ to see if anything is in the
offing before coming here.

So is the idea to maintain both the libraries during buster cycle or
move to 2.0 .  I could help with talking with upstream of various
projects who depends on libsdl1.2 about if they have any plans to
support libsdl2 and if yes when ?

Also with SDL 2.0.4 having better android support the support should
be for the newer versions.

https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_SysWMinfo

Looking forward to know what the maintainers think ?

-- 
          Regards,
          Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
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