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<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>I've been meaning to reply but have had reserves wanting to avoid
wandering too far off topic.</p>
<p>Indeed I'm using a transpiler to build Jappy Activity [1]. It
works wonderfully but I'm still lacking features for a release.</p>
<p>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/somosazucar/artisan">https://github.com/somosazucar/artisan</a><br>
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Today I spent way too many hours trying to get Webkit1 engine as
packaged in OLPC OS fedora 18 based distribution for XO1.5 to run my
activity.<br>
I've come to the conclusion that it will likely never happen,
Webkit1 is way too old.<br>
Trying Webkit2 causes a crash (guess that's why it's off by
default).<br>
<br>
It occurs to me that Debian on XO might be a way forward out of
being stuck in Fedora 18. As it stands, XO users won't be able to
run Jappy.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/03/17 22:02, Tony Anderson wrote:<br>
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Hi, Sebastian<br>
<br>
I am curious how you are planning to teach python programming in
html5. I read there is a <br>
javascript interpreter for python - are you using that?<br>
<br>
I gather from your comment that you also are inflicted with the
2gb XO-1.5s. These are also the ones available in Rwanda (the
customer was never informed of the difference between machines
with 2GB and 4GB). Sadly the 0.110 image does not install on these
machines. James Cameron made a special image which does install
which is being used in Rwanda.<br>
<br>
Have you looked at Al Sweigart's books - which he has licensed
with Creative Commons (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://inventwithpython.com/">http://inventwithpython.com/</a>).
I have a tutorial which builds <br>
from hello world to using his games as examples. First the game is
run in python (Terminal activity). Then the game is run in Pippy.
From Pippy, the student can export his code as a Sugar activity.
Note: the third book (<em>Making Games with Python & Pygame) </em>covers
graphical games which in principle can run in sugar with
sugargame.<br>
<br>
I would be very interested in a Debian image of Sugar built from
Debian repository which installs on a Raspberry Pi or Intel
architecture PC. Such an image should eliminate the need for an
independent Ubuntu image reducing Sugar Labs potential support
burden. I am not clear how code from Sugar Labs github currently
gets to the Debian repository to allow such an image to match a
Sugar Labs release (e.g. 0.100). <br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/24/2017 10:34 AM, Sebastian
Silva wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">For the record I believe it _is_ possible to build legally distributable
Debian-derived images for XO laptops, and I am interested in doing it.
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<pre wrap="">Your enthusiasm nudged me to discover I had a SD card running Jessie on
XO1.5 since a year ago.
In January 2016 I was enthusiastic about an image that George Hunt
published with MATE. At that moment my XO1.5 keyboard starting
malfunctioning badly so I could not continue tests.
For a while I could try it, but only had firmware working for wifi a
little while and then tried upgrading to stretch. It seems to have
succeeded (gets to X11) but several systemd services complain, and
firmware is no longer accepted (although md5 signature is the same).
At this time my interest is the following.
I will be doing a workshop to teach python programming to teenagers.
I've written an HTML5 activity for it and I would like to run it in
Sugar 0.110 (and Sugarizer). I have secured 6 classmate pc laptops to
make our classroom laboratory. I would like to build and manage a Debian
image to install in these laptops.
And so I am thinking my laboratory integration efforts should be
replicable and redistributable so as to not make an effort for only 6
teenagers at a time. I'm experimenting with debian-live for making a
debian live image (to "flash" into the internal 4gb memory). The more
common XO1.5 models have only a 2gb internal memory. I had a good
experience recently flashing a live image to internal flash storage
(with <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://primtux.fr/">http://primtux.fr/</a>). Persistence can be achieved with an external
flash or a server.
I think currently making SugarBlend is a wish of my own as a teacher in
Videogame programing workshops that I want to make as soon as I have my
tools in place.
Your guidance is gladly accepted. I'm trying again a live-builder build
and will report issues here or in debian-live as appropriate.
Thanks and regards!
Sebastian
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