Bug#419049: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Processed: severity of 419049 is grave

[Michael Biebl]

Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> On Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 16:10:45 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
>>> Processing commands for control at bugs.debian.org:
>>>
>>>> # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.9.26
>>>> severity 419049 grave
>>> Bug#419049: shutdown of interfaces before network services are shut down causes data loss
>>> Severity set to `grave' from `normal'
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> as you seem so eager to always reraise the severity I won't join in
>> playing this stupid BTS ping-pong.
>>
>> Please make at least sure, that this RC bug doesn't block newer versions
>> of network-manager to enter testing, because I'm in the middle of a
>> small transition, and if 0.6.4-8 doesn't enter testing it will break
>> related packages. This bug isn't version specific anyway.
> 
> As said in a previous mail (with my stable release managers hat on) this
> IS release critical and needs to be fixed in both stable and testing,
> however this issue is resolved. With the current state it produces
> serious data loss.

<sarcasm>
I intend to file a grave bug against the coreutils package.
Everytime I run "rm -rf /" as root, it causes severe data loss somehow.
</sarcasm>

My point is: You have to use the tools the right way and you have to
know, what your tools were made for. Otherwise you're able to produce
severe data loss with almost any software.
Using network-manager for servers (or workstations) where you run
services like NFS means you are using network-manager the wrong way.
Again, network-manager was conceived for a different use case than the
above.
I can document that in README.Debian if you think this is sufficient to
"solve" this bug.
Btw, if you configure your network interface in /etc/network/interfaces
to use a static IP, network-manager won't touch this interface.
This means, only if you setup your server to get it's IP via DHCP,
network-manager will manage the interface. Judge yourself, if it's sane
to setup a server with dynamic IPs.

Besides, given the constraints I outlined in my previous emails
(remember S20sendsigs running before S31umountnfs.sh) I'd be interested
to know how I should be able to fix this within network-manager?
This is an honest question. If you have actually have an idea how we can
solve this issue, you have all my support.

Cheers,
Michael

-- 
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?

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