[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#673136: Bug#673136: network-manager-gnome: nm-connection-editor shows no connections and everything is greyed out (can't edit anything)

[Jameson Graef Rollins]

On Wed, May 16 2012, Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org> wrote:
>> In any event, as far as I understand things according to the
>> documentation included with network-manager, the point of consolekit is
>> to ensure that the user is a member of netdev.  That can either be
>> managed by consolekit, or the user can be added to that group manually.
>> As I am already a member of netdev, even without consolekit's help, I
>> don't see how this is the issue:
>
> No, that's not how group netdev and consolekit work.

If I fail to understand the role of consolekit please do enlighten me.
From /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian:

  Security
  ~~~~~~~~
  
  To allow users to connect to the NetworkManager daemon they have to be in the
  group "netdev". If you want to add a user to group "netdev" use the command
  "adduser username netdev" or one of the graphical user management frontends.
  After that you have to reload D-Bus with the command "service dbus reload".
  
  Alternatively you can install the "consolekit" package which will grant access
  for all locally logged in users.

Are you telling me this is incorrect?  The implication here is clearly
that I could unintsall consolekit and still be able to use
network-manager if I was in the netdev group, which I am.
network-manager neither Depends or Recommends consolekit.  If consolekit
is required to use network-manager then the network-manager package is
currently broken.

> In any case, as you can see above, your session is marked
> active = FALSE
> is-local = FALSE
>
> That's why you can't edit/change the NM settings.

See above.  Why do these things mean I can change NM setting?  How do
they need to be different?

> The easiest way to fix that is to use a login manager as I mentioned
> earlier.

I am using XDM and am plenty happy with it.  Suggesting that I use a
different login manager is not a solution to this problem.  Again, if
there are unmet dependencies for this package, then the package is
broken.

> See also
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597937

This is a bug in consolekit.  Can you explain why this bug is
responsible for the problem I'm seeing?

I very much appreciate your speedy help, Michael, but I have yet to hear
any actual description of what exactly the problem is that I'm facing.
If consolekit is required, why?  What is it supposed to be doing?

jamie.
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