[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#673136: Bug#673136: Bug#673136: network-manager-gnome: nm-connection-editor shows no connections and everything is greyed out (can't edit anything)

[Jameson Graef Rollins]

On Thu, May 17 2012, Michael Biebl <biebl at debian.org> wrote:
> This is not a network-manager problem per se.
> Having a properly setup ConsoleKit/PolicyKit stack is something your
> desktop environment should provide as a *lot* of tools are nowadays
> depending on that.
>
> That's the problem of using such an exotic configuration like yours. You
> basically need to do that all by hand.

Heh.  This isn't the first time my system has been called exotic,
although maybe the first from this side of the divide! ;)

This *is* the first time I have ever encountered a problem in this
regard, though.  As far as I know I've never had any of my stack fail to
work because of some sort of console/policykit madness.

Fwiw, I must state, for the record, that I *really* hate this trend of
going to ever more complicated spaghetti dependencies that cause all
sorts of cargo-cult configurations to get things working.  It's a
horrible trend and I believe it's really unhealthy for Debian.  We
should be much more focused on stability, rather than fancy obfuscated
configuration managers that are broken nearly as much as they're
working.

My "exotic" system works great because it's so simple.  It only ever
fails when this new desktop environment crap is unwittingly foisted upon
me, and the foisters didn't bother to test to see how badly it all would
fail for those whose systems that don't match their one blessed
configuration.  and exactly to prove my point:

> If a ConsoleKit session is properly registered and ck-list-sessions
> correctly marks your session as active and local, the next step is to
> test if you have PolicyKit authentication agent running in your desktop
> session. KDE and GNOME have one builtin.
> You properly need to start
> /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 manually.
> To test this, run "pkexec aptitude", which should pop up an
> authentication dialog.

Anyway, I'm (hopefully) permanently done with network-manager, so you
can do what you wish with this bug report.  But please please do try to
improve the documentation for future sufferers of this type of
"progress".

jamie.
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