[Pkg-virtualbox-devel] Bug#456989: virtualbox-ose-source: Please change dependency on -ose-modules back to Recommends
Frans Pop
elendil at planet.nl
Tue Dec 18 22:34:05 UTC 2007
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> if you are wondering, why are you submitting a bug report rather than
> asking on the mailinglist?
Because I think I gave good arguments for a reversal but wanted to give the
opportunity to explain the reasons in case I'd missed something.
> once you start doing things manually (by neither using m-a nor
> l-m-e-2.6), you should also manually fulfil the depends (equis)
That is a rather gross mis-characterization of building out-of-tree modules.
I'd hold the standpoint that _manually_ building out-of-tree modules is the
*normal* case and that _providing_ them pre-packaged is a service.
The use of a tool like module-assistant to build out-of-tree modules is
*optional*.
> > Please consider reverting. Recommends should be enough in practice now
> > that apt/aptitude install recommends by default.
>
> virtualbox needs the module, it is useless and doesn't work without it.
> that's why it is a depends.
But there are completely valid other ways to create/provide a module than
through a package. The packaging system has never been intended to force
users to a certain way of doing things.
As I explained, a Recommends should do _exactly_ what you want: install the
package by default for most users, but allow users who build the module
themselves to do without a package.
IMO the old relationship was correct and sufficient; the new one is too
tight.
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