Towards becoming a pkg-voip developer

Kilian Krause kilian at debian.org
Thu Feb 23 22:12:36 UTC 2006


Caio,

Am Donnerstag, den 23.02.2006, 09:43 -0300 schrieb Caio Begotti:
> On Wednesday 22 February 2006 17:54, Lee A. Azzarello wrote:
> > I have a feeling I'm not the only one working on this and I
> > would like to join the pkg-voip-maintainers group. What would I need to do
> > to contribute changes? Do I have to get sponsored by an existing Debian
> > developer?
> 
> I think I'm in similar situation, Lee. I've been working on SpanDSP packages 
> and started packaging Unicall and MFC/R2 and would like to be the maintainers 
> for them. I have an Alioth account already but don't know how to work 
> properly with the team nor how to make changes available faster, not needing 
> to wait a long time to get a 'no, thanks'.

There is no "no thanks" and there will not be. We are always happy about
contributions and we have been thankful in the past. If the way we deal
with them doesn't suit your expectations, I do find that very sad and
ask you to take my appologies, yet we need to focus on what's important:
to make Debian a successful distro. Meaning that we want our packs to be
good packs which may take a bit more time to be sure they do the right
thing. If Mark will not find time to review Unicall, I can try to make
it fit over the weekend. 

Mark, any feedback or comments so far?

> Couldn't you guys sponsor all VoIP packages? I think it would take an 
> (useless) extra time to find a DD with free time to sponsor a few packages.

If we would sponsor unconditionally, that would be very bad for our own
reputation. Thus, please accept that personal inspection may lead to the
conclusion that certain code is not accepted by the individual reviewing
it. For my own part that is that I will not allow CDBS unless there is a
*VERY GOOD* reason to do so (not that I could think of any right now).
The reason is (as already laid out previously) that CDBS does use too
much dark magic, too much voodoo that ultimately it's likely to produce
more problems than it solves. 

As a consequence this indeed does mean that if you want sponsoring
(read: my sponsoring) you need to ditch CDBS and revert to proper rules
files. Any other contribution (that's not adding CDBS to pkg-voip packs)
is highly welcome and quite likely to make it natively into SVN and be
uploaded. For sure neither I nor some other DD on the team will want to
duplicate work and reinvent the wheel only because.

For the general interest in maintaining spandsp, I'm very happy to read
and hear someone standing up to doing it. Nevertheless, please allow
some time for me to get used to your personal way of dealing with things
and of getting my own idea of whether this is the right way in my own
eyes. After some "getting started" time, it might happen that I'll let
your own code through even if it's not my own style of writing, for I
know it will be properly maintained. Yet, for the time being, it's my
name on the changes file and thus my responsibility to ensure the
quality of the upload.

-- 
Best regards,
 Kilian
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