Asterisk 1.4 + bristuff

Kilian Krause kilian at
Sun Jul 22 11:38:50 UTC 2007


On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 06:53:16AM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
> Mark Purcell wrote:
> > Welcome to pkg-voip!
> Thank you, all of you :-)
> > The problem with quilt is that we aren't familiar with it. That doesn't mean 
> > that we aren't open to change but that you will need to give us some 
> > handholding while we work out if quilt is a good thing for us.
> > [snip] 
> > A lot of projects are using quilt so I'm not saying it isn't a good system,
> > but a lot of projects are also using cdbs, git and bzr, one thing we wan't
> > to avoid is the learning cost of a new way of working.
> Well, quilt is not a VCS, it's a patch management tool. There are a 
> douzine or so commands that are very easy to use and follow.
> It's _way_ more comfortable than dpatch-edit-patch or anything similar 
> I've encountered so far.

Yes, svk may come close. That why I support it if we really have to
manage that huge amount of patches for now. Yet we should keep in mind
that we want to push most of the logic upstream and reduce our packaging
to "just wrapping upstream sources into debs".

> I really believe that it will help the maintainance work. I don't feel 
> good proposing a change in the tools used by the team the first day I'm 
> joining it; I wouldn't doing if the learning curve was big or if it 
> wasn't worth it.

Don't worry. It's ok. We'll just bother you with some questions if you
don't give us a good howto of how you want us to handle the sources.

> To be fair, there is an important regression: there is no equivalent of 
> dpatch-edit-patch -b to create a patch in a working directory. There is 
> /usr/share/svn-buildpackage/contrib/svn-do however, which creates a 
> working directory and spawns a command inside of it (or a shell if 
> passed nothing).

svn-buildpackage --svn-export is also nice. Thanks for the hint to
svn-do however. ;)
Btw. no need for the -b if you have the export first.

> You can master it in a matter of _hours_, that's how much it took me to 
> learn it.

Don't worry, just walk us through the update procedure with the next
bristuff and we'll see how it's superior.

> Some hand-holding follows, as requested ;-)


> Anyway, just give it a try and a thought.
> Until you decide otherwise, I'll continue working with dpatch, at least 
> in trunk/.

Good, please nevertheless make a branches/experimental to get us used to
it. Make sure you add it to the /snapshots/pkg-voip-config to have the
checkout take place for Buildserver.NET. I'm really eager to see it
perform nicely with the next bristuff update.

> >>>> I've contributing from time to time various stuff to the team, but I 
> >>>> think it's time to get more involved.
> > 
> > Excellent.  kilian has setup your svn commit rights so you should be good
> > to go!
> Again, thanks to both of you.
> I've already made my first commit. More to come!


Best regards,
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