library transition proposal libosip2 (was: library transition proposal libortp/ liblinphone)

Adeodato Simó dato at
Sun Mar 8 11:14:46 UTC 2009

* Mark Purcell [Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:56:48 +1100]:

> Hi Dato,


> >   * secondly, regarding libosip2-4, it is indeed a very small
> >     transition, though it would get itself tied to the ffmpeg transition
> >     via linphone. Can you upload it to experimental first to check
> >     everything rebuilds fine?

> libosip2-4 has been in experimental since Nov (3.2.0).  There is a new 
> upstream release available (3.3.0) but that doesn't change soname, so no 
> transition necessary, unless I upload the new upstream to unstable. rdepends 
> are bayonne & siproxd & linphone which are all good to go.  Of course bayonne 
> is also tied to the libcommoncpp2 transition ;-) But I think that is almost 
> clear now.

Okay. With "which are all good to go", you mean you have knowledge
they'll rebuild fine against libosip2-4? If so, please go ahead and
upload at your earliest convenience and let us know when you've done so
in order to schedule Bin-NMUs. I guess you'll be uploading libexosip2 as

> >   * finally, does the new linphone fix the FTBFSes that can be seen at
> > And,
> >     can it be uploaded without uploading libosip2-4 unstable (in case
> >     we'd need to do that)?

> Yes the new linphone fixes the FTBFS and does build correctly with
> libosip2-3.

> However don't we want to sequence the rdepends sourceful uploads in the 
> correct order to minimise the revisiting of binNMUs.  If I upload linphone 
> without first clearing libosip2-4, then I will need to request a binNMU for 
> linphone later.  Or am I missing something?

The point was that if the libosip2-4 transition was going to add "mess"
to unstable, as in unbuildable packages, I'd rather wait. But see my
question above.

> > Thanks in advance for your answers and for contacting us, and for
> > patiently waiting our response.

> A guide/ howto would be useful for this new way of working. As I
> couldn't find this new process documented anywhere.

> Something like a library transition howto:

> 1. soname bump?  check with debian-release - await ack.
> 2. upload rdepends in sequence, await NEW & builds on all archs until the next 
> sequence is complete. upload next rdepends. cycle on 2 until all sourceful 
> uploads complete
> 3. request bunNMU for non sourceful uploads
> 4. feel free to upload to experimental at any time.

Yes, this is known. I've promised in the past to write a document about
library maintenance, and it would cover all this as well. I've already
started writing it some weeks ago, thought it's going to take a bit more
until it's finished.


Adeodato Simó                                     dato at
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