[pkg-wine-party] winetricks 64-bit was: Call for testing: automatically detect wine arch and WoW64

[Austin English]

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jens Reyer <jre.winesim at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/11/2015 11:22 PM, Austin English wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Jens Reyer <jre.winesim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> However winetricks seems not to work quite good with WoW64, but I
>>> already heard that before from other distros.
>>
>> What issues are you seeing? I'm not aware of any outstanding 64-bit
>> issues..a lot of installers don't work on 64-bit wine which means
>> there's no 64-bit .Net support in winetricks, but that's a Wine bug.
>> Not all verbs override 64bit dlls, either because they don't exist or
>> support hasn't been added. No one has reported any bugs for that
>> though, so I'm not in a rush to do so.
>
> Hi Austin,
>
> sorry for delaying my answer.
>
> Winetricks was telling me very prominently:
> "You are using a 64-bit WINEPREFIX. If you encounter problems, please
> retest in a clean 32-bit WINEPREFIX before reporting a bug."
>
> And in the source:
> # Winetricks is a package manager for win32 dlls and applications on posix.
>
> -> These two give the impression that winetricks is not (very good) for
> win64. Besides that I only experienced the .Net issue.

That's correct. It mostly works, but some stuff doesn't work in 64-bit
prefixes and I can't fix that (e.g., .Net and a few other installers).

Additionally, most dlls (except vcrun*) doesn't install native 64-bit
dlls. When the dll is available, that should be considered a
(wishlist) bug.

> Previously I had thought that you can install any 32-bit app in a 64-bit
> WoW64 prefix. Since this isn't true generally, of course winetricks
> can't do better.

Exactly.

> However I still wonder: is it possible to install e.g. 32-bit
> .Net to be used by 32-bit apps in a 64-bit prefix?

Not currently. There are a couple major bugs in msi related to 32/64
bit installers. Hans told me at Wineconf that he expects to fix this
at some point (e.g., when some Codeweavers client needs it), and at
that point, this may be fixabale.

>> If you have reproducible issues or feature requests, please report
>> them to https://github.com/Winetricks/winetricks/issues
>
> I'm not sure ;) If it's not an obvious technical misunderstanding on my
> side I might ask above question there.
>
> Greets
> jre



-- 
-Austin