[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#558308: Bug#558308: Xfce menu doesn't show the Debian menu

[Sandro Tosi]

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:05, Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at debian.org> wrote:
> On sam., 2009-11-28 at 01:02 +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 00:48, Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at debian.org>
>> wrote:
>> > That's not an Xfce stuff. And to be honest, I don't even know what
>> it
>> > is. apt-cache search reveals there's a gnome-main-menu package, so
>> maybe
>> > you try to configure the wrong stuff.
>>
>> that's weird... because some of the items on the settings menu
>> actually configures the Xfce behavior, and I believed the Settings
>> section was under full control of xfce, without voices coming from
>> other DE.
>>
>
> No, the “Settings” submenu contains all items tagged “Settings”,
> including stuff used by other DE or even stuff from no DE.

That makes sense :) But, OTOH, it might confuses the users, since what
you want is setting up Xfce, while you might end up in a program for
another DE without knowing it (as happened to me) and than wondering
why it's not working.

Can you find a way to bettere identify Xfce (or differentiate somehow)
settings programs from other DE ones?

>> > If you want to use the debian menu with the Xfce menu in the panel,
>> > right click on it, properties and select “use a custom menu
>> file”. Then
>> > pick /etc/xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu
>>
>> But this way the freedesktop menu is overwritten with the debian one.
>> What I want, and I was able to get it with xfce 4.4.2.1 (now I
>> upgraded to 4.6.1.3) is to have another voice in the menu, named
>> "Debian", and inside it the whole Debian menu.
>>
>> Is there a way to get that somehow?
>
> That's not possible. It might be back in 4.8.

Please, please, reintroduce it: from a user perspective, it's a
regression from 4.4 and it's quite "annoying" since several tools
still don't ship .desktop files, but only menu, and so are not shown
in the Xfce menu (and, for a non tech-savvy guy, can prevent to use
the app baliming "hey, I installed it but I can't find in the menu so
there must be something wrong").

if it's possible, also some temporary patch to 4.6 would be really welcome.

Cheers,
-- 
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
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