[Reportbug-maint] Bug#241027: Please support reporting bugs to alioth.debian.org

[Sandro Tosi]

tags 241027 wontfix
thanks

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 13:20, Helge Kreutzmann<debian at helgefjell.de> wrote:
> Hello Sandro,
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:49, Helge Kreutzmann<debian at helgefjell.de> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:02:52PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 15:46, Helge Kreutzmann<debian at helgefjell.de> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:13:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
>> >> >> Package: reportbug
>> >> >> Severity: wishlist
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since the alioth people refuse to support the "ordinary" BTS
>> >> >> http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=300014&group_id=1&atid=200001
>> >> >>
>> >> >> it would be great if reportbug could find a way to interface to
>> >> >> alioth, so bugs can be reported in a unified interface.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know this is probably a long term wishlist, but having this would be
>> >> >> really great!
>> >> >
>> >> > Did you have some time to consider if this is feasible?
>> >>
>> >> You have to involve the Alioth team to provide us a way to report bug
>> >> to them (the best would be a mailbox where we can send report for
>> >> alioth issues).
>> >
>> > I'm sorry, I've no (explict) contact to the Alioth team as well.
>> > That's basically the reason I would like this feature. I hoped that
>> > you had the contacts necessary (as "bug" experts)
>>
>> we are no "bug expert" (that could be the owner of bugs.debian.org),
>> we are simply the maintainer of reportbug.
>
> Sorry, that was not meant as an offence. I (obviously wrongly) assumed
> that by beiing the maintainer of reportbug you had collected some
> knowledge about the upstream issues (here beiing bug handling).

No offence :) I just only meant that we are users of BTS (ok,
"particular" users) with no special privileges or so.

>> >  to work out the technical details.
>>
>> what's there taht stops you from contacting Alioth team and ask them
>> what you can do to help achieve your goal?
>
> Well, if that helps you I can sure search for an e-mail adress on
> alioth and request them to contact you/this bug.
>
>> >> I'm sorry, but we cannot be the facilitators for this, if Alioth team
>> >> doesn't support, so you should be the gateway if you're still
>> >> interested in this feature.
>> >
>> > I'm still interested though possible not the right contact person. So
>>
>> could you please explain why? there's no need to be a tech guy to ask
>> if some sort of coordination/development can be done on alioth side.
>
> I can for sure send an e-mail as stated above.

We are running low on maintainer resources, so we cannot follow up
this request with alioth team.

My request is to contact alioth admin, explain what you need, try to
convince them it's an interesting feature and only in case of
clarification/synchronization let them contact us.

You should lead this request with alioth team, with us only as
fallback for specific integration technical stuff.

>
>> > I guess the bug has to stay at the current state for the moment. Maybe
>> > someone with contact to the Alioth team will see it and can provide
>> > the necessary contact to couple alioth to reportbug.
>>
>> I don't like to keep bugs opened because "maybe someone will come up
>> and solve it", in particular for bugs we can't do anything to solve
>> only by ourselves and when the submitter seems not willing to push
>> further on alioth. (the reason the bug was not already closed or bein
>> pinged is that it didn't fell under my radar).
>
> Well, this bug is a wishlist, a feature request. There is nothing
> broken. So while I understand your sentiment, I don't agree with
> closing it. Debian is not hiding things. Unfortunately there is no tag
> in the BTS for "cantfix". As stated initially, this bug is probably
> long term.

tagged wontfix, the tag that better fit what's the status of this bug.

>> > Thanks for your answer anyhow.
>>
>> Please contact Alioth team, or find someone willing to push it thru,
>> else we can't do anything but close this report.
>
> As stated above, I'll see what I can do but meanwhile I would object
> closing the bugs.

Let us know of any important advance on this request.

Regards,
-- 
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
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