[Teammetrics-discuss] GsoC Project Weekly Report 1

Sukhbir Singh sukhbir.in at gmail.com
Tue May 15 19:59:02 UTC 2012


Hi!

> Well, I was obviosely (and intentionally) stretching a bit far when
> mentioning lynx.  However, sometimes I'm using w3m (with w3m-img
> installed) on a ssh-remote machine and this frequently has some very
> reasonable results.  I do not want to make this a "must" criterion but
> it is good to keep in mind that there are some use case we should not
> exclude just for only "fancy" web layout.  If there are very strong
> reasons to break text mode browsers you certainly can convince me to
> do so.  However, before we will face such reasons I'm in favour of
> KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

>> >  1. How to reasonable select 1 team
>> >  2. How to reasonable select X teams for comparative display
>> >  3. What measures (mailing list activity, commits, closed bugs, uploads)
>> >    should be displayed in 1. and 2.)
>> >  4. Selecting a certain time span for 1. and 2.
>> >  5. How can I ask for a team not yet in the statistics
>> >  6. ...
>>
> I trust you that there are good reasons for client side rendering and as
> I said above if non-JS stuff would limit our opportunities drastically
> there is no point in refusing to use this.  My point above was that we
> first should care for the general logic what we want to present and how
> we design the querying interface.  I think once this is done the choice
> of the final presentation of the data becomes rather easy because it
> would be a natural consequence of this.
> [...]
> You have given good reasons for client side rendering and as I said I'm
> not strictly against it.  The fact that we need to provide textual data
> anyway (Debian Accessibility) gives one point more for the method to
> render the Graph at the client.  However, as I said we always should try
> to be sensible where to put advanced JS stuff and try to avoid it / do
> something reasonable if JS is not available.  Just keep in mind that
> blind persons are using browsers that could be called even less feature
> rich than lynx.  We should not push these users into the dark just for
> some funny effects.

Ok, so I just read everything and because you have already discussed
it thoroughly, I will just add what I feel: we first discuss _what_ we
need to do and then we will worry about presenting it later. The most
important part is what exactly are the things we are going to present?
So let's discuss that.

Vipin, you might already be aware but if you are not:
http://blends.debian.net/liststats/ . Also, when you have time, read
the notes (or watch the talk itself) from our talk at DebConf. That
might give you some interesting ideas. notes: [0], video: [1].

[0] - http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/teammetrics-discuss/2011-August/000245.html
[1] -http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2011/debconf11/high/712_Measuring_Team_Performance.ogv

-- 
Sukhbir



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