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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So then lets start (or is anybody against it)?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">5</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">4</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">2</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Start.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Here are the items for the meeting:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1. Retrospect</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">2. Status</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3. Next steps</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Last time we talked about new debian packages, a new homepage and new developers.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Did I miss anything?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok, there is new developers </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">agarfu is one </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I investigated several possibilities for a new homepage and there are a lot.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">I'm willing to cooperate on the project, as well.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">great </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yes. AgarFu: Would you like to introduce yourself again (and damog)?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">In 2-3 sentences?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Would are your goals and skills?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">I think it should be really obvious by now that I just don't have the time to do the packaging. So I think I should redefine my role to being a mentor and uploading packages to the official archive</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'm working for a spanish University </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Hello, my name is David Moreno Garza, I'm a DD, and I've been quite interested on -desktop since ages, but recently I've not put special attention to it.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">And I've convinced my boss to work for yast4debian</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Ok, lets talk about it right after the introduction, ok?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ok.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: oops sorry I jumped the gun</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Than there is another DD (debian developer).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: No problem.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">my name is René Martín</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">sorry again</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">and my english is awful</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">AgarFu: The mandatory question: Are you a DD too?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">more sorry </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">no, I'm not ;-(</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Not that much sorrys please ;-). This is a chat and it has its drawbacks.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ok, anything else you two want to say about yourself?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'm not alone</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">we are three people</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">and we'll working 5 days a week</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">2 or 3 hours </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">AgarFu: So you are representing the group today, right?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">yes</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Only on yast4debian? Great.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">we have some skill in Qt programming, c, c++, python, perl ...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">unormal: i think that a one solution could be klik</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">temporaly</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">klik for what, the installation of yast4debian?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">pikota: I seem to have read klik requires there to be Debian packages anyway</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Not necesserily.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Do you think that klik could be a possibility for more testers for y4d?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">in any case I think we should stick with the standard Debian architecture as much as possible</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok, i think so</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I agree.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">BTW: Is everybody of the new ones subscribed to the mailinglist (not #debian-desktop the other one)?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">creating the initial packaging is the hard part. After that it should get easier to tweak</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So damog, are you interested in helping to package y4d?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I've done it yesterday</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: Sure thing.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Do you already tried the new SVN?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: I just tried to connect to it. Didn't check anything in.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ok, then come to item 2 (we are already in the middle of it): 3 things:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: So it works?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3 things:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1. debian packages</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">2. new homepage</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: seem to. yes.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3. more attraction</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Ok, thx.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">we have a nice server were we can place anything</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">perfect !!!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">2 xeon 3GHz and connected to the university</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">there is place to a web, svn, whatever</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Wait, wait. We should see that we don't spread our work across different servers.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">ok, i just offer it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">I think alioth is more or less stable these days</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">yeah</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Nothing against AgarFu, your offer and this is not a no, but.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I understand you, no problem</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">AgarFu: if we get really popular a mirror might be needed</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">that's done</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: You as the the main porter (AIUI), what do you need, what alioth doesn't fit? It's my job to organise you the best tools.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok, that's right</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Is there anything missing on alioth?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">the FTP doesn't work for me </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">FTP?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I can't access project source </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yes, right. The link is dead on the homepage. I'll investigate.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">AgarFu: if you are a member of the yast4debian project, you can ssh/scp in</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'd like to have a central repository where the source code and the patches, etc. are.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">AgarFu: Create an account on alioth and I'll you (three) to the group.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: Add me, please. 'damog' account.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Is this ok for you, pikota (the thing about the repository).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: Sure!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">isn't alioth's repo being used?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">svn/cvs/whatever</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">Also there is an apt repository for the existing packages. you can also get the source with apt-get source</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">damog: its there but unused so far</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: These packages are the old one, isn't it?</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">hi</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">sorry for the delay :(</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">jaldhar: I see.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: I prefer "most current ones" :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Ok, it wasn't against you. I deeply appreciate your work.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: You're in the group on alioth.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: What do you think about the repo?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>blackthorne</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">i still haven't understood if is already there work started or just talk...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: no its true. They are old and need to be updated</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i think repository is neccesary </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">blackthorne: There is already a lot of work done. See yast4debian.alioth.debian.org</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">Guys I'm Ramon Acedo, are we gonna follow the YaST4Debian meeting?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">just wanted to present myself and join to the meeting :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Is SVN ok for you and everybody.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">CargolNet: hi. Sorry we started without you</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">Great</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">np</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Sorry, we are in the middle of it. Short summary: new developers, several!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">really? glad to hear it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Do you already tried the SVN on our alioth site?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Really, 4 and more!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">nop</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: We are talking about the new repository.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: thaks for the summary</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: What is the URL for the SVN. I did't try it myself.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Could you check in your work in the next days?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: svn+ssh://user@svn.debian.org/svn/yast4debian/</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">user = your alioth account name</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">afaik, svn has to be requested adittionally on alioth, hasn't it?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">damog: it was already done by Mario</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: Already done.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Ah, then I shut up. :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">my username in alioth is agarfu-guest</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Is this ok for you or do you need any additional features?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">It's ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">thanks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">AgarFu: Done. Send my the names of the two others in the next days if you like.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">oka</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">thx</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Is there a time estimation until when you could check in your work?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I see we talk about repositories, have you decided what to store there? are we going to maintain patches or a fork</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Good question.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">unormal: i don't know , i'll try this week</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">the complete source should be there</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">this would ease things sure</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Ok, thx. Otherwise I'll send you some message on jabber ;-)).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">unormal ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">But what is the complete source, which version? pikota?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>blackthorne</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">i got connection refused when trying to get the source</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">9.1 </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">blackthorne: On the ftp link?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">we have to compile all with the new version 10</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">with gcc 4</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>blackthorne</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">unormal, y</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">blackthorne: We have to fix it, sorry.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Do you tried it already?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">a little </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i have problems with one package of yast </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So what would be the best. The branches (is this the right word?) in the repo: one with the 9.1 code and the second one with the new (10.x) code?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yast2-core exactly</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ups ;-).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'd like to increase the communication so that others could help you, pikota. What about more communication on the list?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">all rights</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">pikota: I propose to follow the agenda Mario prepared to speed up the meeting</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Not that you aren't good enough, you're great.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i know</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i hope agarfu helps </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I think we're already in item 3 (next steps).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I hope you teach me </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">ok, a step would be to decide whether to work in the last version of YaST or in the one it started to work</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: If you send me (or the list) your problems and work I could generate some documentation.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">as I see that we've got more interested people we could like start almost from the scratch</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">unormal: ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">unormal : i'll try say problems </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Great.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i think that is better begin with yast 10</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">perfect</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">you're the most indicated to propose this pikota :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I think there are two thinks to do (more or less in parallel): work on porting yast to debian and generate debian packages.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">and how do you want to merge with suse versions?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">now YaST is more easy to port</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">And there are two groups (who could merge, for sure): package team (jaldhar and damog) and port team (pikota, AgarFu, ...)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yes, </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">it works with "layers"</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I like the idea</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Unfortuanely noone of SuSE/Novell is hear tonight.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I'd like to go on with documentation and try to test everything as until now</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">BTW: There is a new version of rpm in debian so we don't need the one of SuSE.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Ok.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">great, less work :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">rpm 4.1 is just on debian???</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">rpm 4.4</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">perfect</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">4.4.1, yeah, at least on sid</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">rpm, it was a important problem</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">and kubuntu??</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">it was, crazy to compile!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">anyone knows?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">No, sorry. But I could look after it.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">oik</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">going on with teams, with two developers and two packagers this looks like an important improvement</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>blackthorne</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">i'm looking towards porting YaST to alckware compatible distro. What do you think our projects can merge? how can i help and how can you help?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">pikota: no they are still on 4.0.3 iirc</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">pikota: but now it is in sid they should be able to update fairly easily</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">thanks jaldhar</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">blackthorne: I think our patches will make yast more platform independent.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: yes but thought to work in debian</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">it's possible but complicated</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yast has rpm very inside</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">but surely it will be easier once we get used to make modules work under debian</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">pikota: but not as before, the last version is divided in layers as stanislav told</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So do you still think we should postpone the rpm to dpkg stuff?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">true, ramon</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: in my opinion we should concentrate in other modules. We've got some good stuff for managing packages like synaptic</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano is here too.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">ih</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">hi there stano</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ups, where is jaldhar.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">hi</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">evening everyone!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">hi stano</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">For all: stano is one guy of the SuSE/Novell YaST team.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">re jaldhar </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: little summary for stano ;)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Sure ;-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">CargolINet, unormal: thanks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: Little summary: There are more developers. Two teams (package team: 2 persons), port team: 3-5 persons.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">wow</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: We will work with yast2 of version 10.x</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">and use svn I guess, don't we?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar, damog: What do you need for new packages? And what do we need for an initial upload to unstable or experimental?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Yes, thx.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: in my opinion we should make it working first</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">at least one or two modules in a decent way</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">Are you looking for the configuration or for the installation part?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">stano: configuration atm</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">OK</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: My point is the following: If we have something to show, we could attract new people and more.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: The source should be able to be built on a regular Debian system. That's all we'd need.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: Having the source being built, and all dependencies packaged, we'd be able to upload to experimental (I'd completely go to experimental for a while)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Am I right that the yast2 core worked with 9.1 and some modules.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">good point unormal, and in experimental it doesn't need to work perfectly :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yes</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yast2-users,</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: I agree with experimental.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yast2-nfs-client and server</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: BTW: Is the following site of some interest: <a href="http://yast4debian.alioth.debian.org/modules-status.html">http://yast4debian.alioth.debian.org/modules-status.html</a></font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#97974f"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>_jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#97974f">sheesh</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">_jaldhar: Say if you missed some information, I'll try to summarise.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">ALL: May I try to summarise some things.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#97974f"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>_jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#97974f">unormal: the last three minutes or so</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">_jaldhar: stano is here, we talked about what is necessary for an upload to experimental and that we work with yast in version 10.x</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Summary or possible next steps:</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Damn.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Anyway, here are the steps.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1. Upload the source code of yast2 version 10.x to SVN.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">2. Work on it the get it compiling (patches and co).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3. package it and upload a first load to experimental (core with 2-3 modules).</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Any objections?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">correct</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: Possible next steps: Source check in to svn, port it and compile it and package it.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: Was a summary ;-).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Any time estimations?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">I'd go for a week on packaging.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">having all dependencies packaged</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">unormal: thanks for the summary</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: Do you think you could use some of _jaldhar's work? _jaldhar?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: Any time estimation on your side?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">i don't know, i think that on one o two weeks , we have yast2-core compiled y we 'll work on modules</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota: I don't want to obligate you.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">not problem</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#97974f"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>_jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#97974f">unormal: yes it basically just needs to be updated with current dependencies, some lintian errors fixed etc.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">AgarFu: What do you think? Do you need something? What about the other two of you?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar: Ok.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: You aren't on the y4d mailinglist?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I think I'll be pikota's padawan</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">jajaja</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'm landing</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">lol</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: Just requested acceptance.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">pikota, AgarFu: I know that you prefer to communicate in Spanish and that's great but please try to write some words about your work on the mailing list.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">ok, ramon can help us</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">yes I'll try</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">his english is better </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'll write some similar to english to the list</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I think communication and mostly documentation is important. Mostly if there are new people who are interested to work with us.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>miguev</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">hello, sorry for I'm late</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">you do it greatly pikota ;)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'll apreciate any corrections</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">miguev is my partner at university</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ok, the second of the group of the three.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: I can help with doc as I said</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">yes</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Great. So there is less for me and more time to study ;-))).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">it doesn't take as much as programming although I like to get into the code as well </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: you could keep concentrating in the promotion and in the web site</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Me too. I rebegin to program in Java, (begin to) in Prolog and C++ (Qt).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Ok.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: Is there anything from your side? Otherwise I've got some questions.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: You're subscribed!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">thanks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">unormal: no, I'm here to answer if I can ;-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt>>unormal< can we please move quicker? I mean, to follow the agenda</tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">miguev: Get a login on alioth and send my your username.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">stano: before your join we were talking about how integrated is rpm in the code of the new yast2</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">is not as deep as before, is it?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">it's easier to replace now</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">you can do it on several levels</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">that's good news</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">1) yast2-packagemanager - tough like hell</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">pikota is worried about this matter. The design in "layers" should ease things as well</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">2) yast2-pkg-bindings - might be hard because of semantic mismatch</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">3) yast2 - Package.ycp is the module used by most of the configuration modules</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">3) is probably the easiest way</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: My nickname isn't registered, so no private messages.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I'd like to talk about a matter we started in the list</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Are there any open questions in the official program of the meeting? Otherwise I'd like to summarise the next steps for the persons who have to leave.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">what?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">the kind of support and interest that Novell/SuSE has in the yast4debian project</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">lagoon is my second partner</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>lagoon</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">hi</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">hi lagoon</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">CargolNet: I'm basically a developer</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ok, lagoon and miguev: if you register on alioth and send me your usernames I can add you to the group. And second you should subscribe to our mailinglist (see on alioth.debian.org/projects/yast4debian)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">CargolNet: from my point of view, I don't see official support coming anytime soon</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">We've released the code under GPL and that's probably it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: I think there changed a lot if you see there choice of GNOME only.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">novell -> Gnome ??</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">gnome default desktop for suse?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yep.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>pikota</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">future</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I wanted to explain that here there are support from the public administrations for some projects</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: Can you say me how I can register my nickname?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">but they are only interested in "corporate" things</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">and my idea was to go there and tell them that with the "support" of Novell we are porting yast to debian</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: Wouldn't it be enough if people as stano and Klaus acknowledge the project?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">this way developing and packaging could be partly paid</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">by them, or at least i'd like to try this option</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Still a very interesting idea.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">it's just an question of image to them, not sure if I explain it well :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">unormal: /msg nickserv register SuperPassword</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">damog: What is SuperPassword? My password? Lets try ;-).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: yes it would be enough sorry</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">CargolNet: So lets write (I'll do it) or better simply ask Klaus and stano.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">you know, things like a "corporate logo" do a lot for this kind of people in the administration</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>lagoon</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">unormal: my username at alioth is lagoon-guest</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">lagoon: DONE.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>lagoon</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">thk</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">unormal: what's next </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I think we've covered almost every thing</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Thats it so far.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yes.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'll try to summarise and predict the next steps (once again ;-).</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">- We have two groups (not exclusivly):</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">-> port group: pikota, AgarFu, lagoon, miguev </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">-> package group: jaldhar and damog </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">- We decided to go with the yast2 version 10.x.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">- The next steps are:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">-> Upload the source and the patches to SVN (port group) - 1-2 weeks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">-> Work on the new code and get it compiling (port group, for sure the package group could help) - 2-3 weeks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">-> Create first packages and upload them to experimental (package group) - 1 week</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">- We'd like to write more on the mailinglist to better communicate and document.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I think that's it.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">sounds good to me</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Anything else? Anybody missing?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>blackthorne</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">good question</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">I just want to repeat that I'm so happy viewing so many interested people :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">we can finish our meeting here then</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">BTW, if you need to answer a technical question,</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">- Subprojects: CargolNet investigates working with adminstration</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">ask on yast-dev on forge.novell.com</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">there are other YaST2 developers listening</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: Mailing list or IRC channel?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">mailing list</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">no public IRC channel so far</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: subscribable or just postable?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>miguev</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">unormal: my username on alitoh is miguev-guest (i'm subscribed to ML already)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">BTW: Last question to everybody: </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stano checks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">What do you think about an (short) IRC meeting every month?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>miguev</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">it sounds good</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Other opinions?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">unormal: <a href="http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/maillist/?group_id=1532">http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/maillist/?group_id=1532</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">great mario</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jaldhar, CargolNet, pikota, stano, lagoon, AgarFu?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stano: thx.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">if my twins permit ;-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>CargolNet</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">wow</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>stano</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">unormal: no need to subscribe AFAIK</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ups, sorry, damog, forgot you.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>jaldhar</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">unormal: I think I should ve able to manage once a month</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>damog</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">it's ok for me</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>unormal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">lagoon, AgarFu and damog?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>AgarFu</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">it's ok for me too</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>lagoon</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">me too</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt>lagoon</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">:</font></tt></td></tr>
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