[Debian-ha-maintainers] Linux-HA Jessie release goals

Philipp Marek philipp.marek at linbit.com
Tue May 21 06:50:47 UTC 2013


Hello Andrew,
hello Martin,

> > 2. Another issue is Heartbeat support. Andres Rodriguez has brought
> > up the idea of drop-
> > ping support for the Heartbeat communication stack altogether to
> > force a migration to the
> > new Corosync 2. While I was originally reluctant to this, by now I
> > think there are quite some
> > reasons speaking for it.
> >
> > There has not been a single Heartbeat release for almost two years
> > now,
> 
> Realistically its been even longer.
> Apart from the crm bits, very little was changing in releases since
> even 2.0.0
> 
> I'd love to see someone get really stuck into the codebase, to clean
> it up and push it forward.
> But I don't see that happening any time soon.
Probably not, unless we find someone to pay us for that ;)


> > according to
> > Philipp Marek from LINBIT, Heartbeat's current upstream, a new
> > version 3.0.6 is planned:
...
> > Plus, we have no
> > idea if upstream, at some point, will simply decide to drop the
> > Heartbeat support altogether
> > (Andrew, your input would be highly appreciated on this one).
> 
> As long as the support overhead is minimal, which it has been so far
> and I see no reason it will change, I have no problem leaving it in.
> Once upon a time there were some features we were considering that
> would only work with corosync, but I they've been put on the
> back-burner, dropped or modified.
Lars has been pushing a few changes now, and wants (hopes) to do a
3.0.6rc1 still in May.

There are no big changes planned, though - heartbeat simply _works_,
and it works so good that hardly any changes are necessary!

The code is stable - so why should we try to mess around in there?


BTW, Heartbeat has a few connection plugins that Corosync is missing
(tipc, rds, hbaping).


> > Summary: I opt for
> > a. Removing support for Heartbeat from Pacemaker
> > b. Switching to Pacemaker 1.1.9 or later + Corosync 2
> > c. Providing DebConf notices about people breaking their setups
> > d. Continue to support crmsh alongside with PCS
> >
> > Any comments are highly appreciated.
-1 for a)
+1 for the rest, of course.


We're building the Pacemaker packages with support for both CCMs,
so that people can switch as necessary "on the fly".
*Please* do the same for Debian.


Regards,

Phil

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