[Debian-med-packaging] [devteam-bioc] More licensing issues (Was: BLAT license)

[Michael Lawrence]

Would someone please clarify a series of steps that would lead to
favorable (for the world) resolution?

rtracklayer only uses the code in "src/lib" and "src/inc".  Stuff for
reading/writing BigWig and 2bit files. It sounds like Jim would need
to choose a license that is more explicitly "free" than the current
"free for all use public, private and commercial". In particular, one
that spells out how the code can be redistributed. Is that right?

Thanks,
Michael

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Hervé Pagès <hpages at fredhutch.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/14/2015 12:38 AM, Maintainer wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> do you consider Michael's hint helpful.  As you know we are taking
>> licensing issues serious (I'm wondering whether the people you want to
>> protect your code from are doing so as well or whether you are just
>> keeping away from using the code the honest one who care ;-) ).  Please
>> let us know if you want us to remove the affected code from Debian by
>> removing about 10 BioConductor packages.
>
>
> Only 10 really? rtracklayer is part of the core stack and provides
> functionalities like import/export of GFF, 2bit, BED, etc... and other
> commonly used bioinformatics file formats. 174 software packages
> and 140 annotation packages depend directly or indirectly on it in
> BioC 3.2. Also without rtracklayer the user can't access thousands
> of annotation resources provided thru AnnotationHub.
> It's one of the most used BioC packages with thousands of downloads
> per month (ranked #18, see
> http://bioconductor.org/packages/stats/index.html).
>
> I don't know what a re-packaging of BioC would look like without
> rtracklayer. Probably not that useful and likely to cause some
> frustration.
>
> I hope the licensing issue can be sorted out.
>
> Thanks,
> H.
>
>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>         Andreas.
>>
>> Mental note to myself:
>>      I somehow could imagine a "Free your code for Christmas" initiative
>>      in general.  May be we should think about this for 2016 at least.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:18:36AM +0000, Michael Crusoe wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are looking to ensure that derivative works aren't relicensed, and
>>> you want to use an existing license (which I recommend) then you are
>>> looking for a copyleft license.
>>>
>>> I like this interactive guide to software licenses:
>>> http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:35 Andreas Tille <andreas at an3as.eu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:03:50AM +0100, Jim Kent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I did not phrase it directly enough.  I ended my last email
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps in your files is a license that has a word or two on this
>>>>>
>>>>> subject
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> already?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By this I mean,  do you have a license that mentions something about
>>>>> not
>>>>> allowing sublicenses on the license?  Could you send it to me if you
>>>>> do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean by "sublicenses".  Do you think
>>>> that redistribution of possibly changed code is "sublicensing"?  Please
>>>> check whether the license you have in mind will have any conflict with
>>>> the following DFSG guidelines which are widely accepted as open source
>>>> definition:
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
>>>>
>>>> If you see any conflict in any of these items we probably can not find
>>>> any license that will fit your needs.  It would help if you would
>>>> exactly specify what you want to approach with the license.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>       Andreas.
>>>>
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>
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