Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome

Ian Jackson ijackson at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Thu Oct 25 16:36:40 UTC 2012


Don Armstrong writes ("Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome"):
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > I’m not the one who has violated the Constitution so far. The CTTE, on
> > the other hand, is currently acting in direct violation of Constitution
> > §6.3.6. No discussion was ever attempted after the upload of meta-gnome3
> > 1:3.4+2 which implements the decision for bug#645656.
> 
> It's true that discussion and consensus building should have happened
> before any drafting (even if just as a general courtesy.) However,
> we've been discussing this issue with the attempt to reach consensus
> or at least some understanding for the past month, and still have yet
> to even start to make a technical decision. [Not to mention the fact
> that it stems from an issue which has been discussed extensively for
> the past six months.]

Personally I don't see this as a new issue.  As you say it stems from
the previous issue which seems not to have been fully closed.  An
alternative interpretation would be that I, wearing my "individual"
hat, referred the matter to the TC.  I don't think there's anything in
the constitution preventing a TC member from referring a matter to the
TC.

I think it would have been quite wrong to require one of the original
complainants, or a new complainant, to make an explicit referral to
the TC of what I consider to be the maintainers' failure to
satisfactorily implement the previous TC resolution; or to put it
another way, the failure of the previous TC resolution to explicitly
rule out an undesirable approach which wasn't anticipated in the
previous discussions.

And from a practical point of view, I don't think it would be
reasonable to expect anyone to voluntarily stick their head above the
parapet into the toxic atmosphere surrounding this issue.

Ian.



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