[pkg-lxc-devel] Bug#1030389: lxc: Conflict with new systemd cgroup unified hierarchy

[Linas Vepstas]

On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 8:29 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb at debian.org> wrote:

>
> No, but it sounds plausible that either you don't have apt-listchanges
>

I do have apt-listchanges, but Debian auto-updates itself nightly, and does
not inform me of what changes it makes.  I don't know how to disable the
auto-update feature.

and therefore didn't read the news entry telling how to make
> unprivileged containers work with cgroupsv2,


My unpriviledged contains have worked *just fine* for a decade! And then
they broke a few days ago. Creating a breaking change that is silent and
incompatible is not acceptable. This took me two days to debug, and it took
down a running server, https://gnucash.org for that time interval.


> or you installed directly
> LXC on bullseye and didn't read the readme present in
> /usr/share/doc/lxc (file: README.Debian.gz).
>

It is fundamentally wrong to expect users to be rocket surgeons. Being
unable to boot your system after a power outage is bad. Taking three days
to figure out why your server, that thousands of people depend  on, failed
to boot, is a horror. Requiring a PhD in operating system theory and days
plundering the bowels of how this obscure and arcane subsystem works is not
acceptable.

When you lose electrical power, and get it back again, the system should be
able to boot and run. Blaming me for not reading some obscure and unknown
README file after making a BREAKING CHANGE is criminal.

This is representative of the stupid thought that the systemd folks engage
in regularly. I'm tired of spending days trying to repair systems that
worked just fine the day before. Changes to apt packages should not render
a system unbootable.  And breaking stuff, ... on purpose ... just to break
it ... that's criminal.

I'd punch all of you in the nose if I could. This is just gross negligence
and incompetence. You people need to grow up and stop acting like Peter
Pan. It's' time to behave like responsible, grown adults. Take some pride
in doing good work, instead of crapping on your users!

-- Linas
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