[pkg-lxc-devel] Bug#1030389: Bug#1030389: lxc: Conflict with new systemd cgroup unified hierarchy

[Pierre-Elliott Bécue]

Linas Vepstas <linasvepstas at gmail.com> wrote on 07/02/2023 at 00:05:04+0100:

> I'm not using unprivileged containers. They are root containers, and
> they are marked to auto-start when the machine boots.
>
> I'm being aggressive because I'm really angry. I ditched windows for
> linux 25 years ago, because linux was really better. It was a joy to
> use. It reached an all-time peak around 2005, when one could install
> Ubuntu and everything just worked instantly and painlessly. Ever since
> then it has been a slow decay, getting less and less stable, harder to
> use and diagnose and keep running.

If you mean that complex systems bring more complex issues, then I can
only agree.

What we could do in 2005 is just orders of magnitude less than what we
can do now with a Linux Distro. Yes it has some drawbacks. That being
said, most of the things can be avoided with proper doc reading.

> I don't appreciate your saying that I "dug a hole for myself". You're
> the guys digging the holes.

Not really, no. We are the guys packaging software. This software
changes and therefore we have to cope with these changes.

> I am not the one who opened
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13477 -- someone else did
> that three years ago.

I don't know what your point is.

> I am not the one who opened https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/4072 --
> someone else did that a year ago.

Same. Yes, people meet issues due to software changes, it's the course
of life.

> I'm just using search engines to figure out why this and other serious
> fundamental bugs halted a reboot.

Nothing here is a bug. Systemd chose to enable by default cgroups v2 in
Debian 11, and this had some consequences that were handled. These
consequences were properly advertised by the means we use to advertise
breaking changes.

> Stop blaming me for the mess.

I'm blaming you for trying to blame others for an unproperly done dist
upgrade. This is your responsibility to read changelogs, read the
documentation, and do a proper upgrade testing that anything works fine
afterwards. This is not ours.

-- 
PEB
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