Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds

[Mattia Rizzolo]

On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 11:02 p.m. Adrian Bunk <bunk at debian.org> wrote:

> Tracker:
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hsqldb1.8.0
> "Does not build reproducibly during testing"
>

And indeed it's not reproducible according to policy: it's storing the
build user at the very least.

>
> Let's look at the mdds package, that has red unreproducible entries in
> the maintainer dashboard:
>
> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/mdds.html
>
> mdds is unreproducible only in sid since more things (including the
> build path) are varied there. The information behind "differences"
> confirms that the build path is the only issue.
>
> According to policy, mdds is reproducible.
>

And indeed its unreproducibility is not reported in tracker and ddpo (DMD
does because it's using a source data that includes everything, not just
the state we want to push.  But then, DMD has a tendency to show *lots* of
things, if you disagree with it, please take it to the DMD maintainer, not
us).

Unless policy is supposed to be completely detached from reality,
> the criteria for claiming in various places that a package is
> unreproducible have to match the policy definition of reproducibility.
>

IMHO, you are arguing about a non existent issue.  I believe we are always
being reasonable, otherwise I'd like to ask you to point us to actual
situation where we could have acted better.  Yes, I'm aware of the
src:libreoffice case.
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