[Debwebid-discuss] rdf coordination

[Olivier Berger]

Hi.

chrysn <chrysn at fsfe.org> writes:

> hello debwebid team,
>
> as suggested by jonas, i'm taking this here, on grounds of this being
> the best place to coordinate the minting of urls for entities involved
> in the debian project:
>

It can be done here... although WebID primarily covers entities like
people or agents, usually... but why not ;-)

> i'd like to take up michael baumgartner's suggestion of working on
> semantic data about debian during debcamp.

Great !

Any pointer on that suggestion, for context and possible discussions on
other aspects of the question ?

> so far, what has been done
> is:
>
> * update https://wiki.debian.org/RDF to be a spooling point for semantic
>   tools in debian and semantic resources about debian.
>

I've just added a pointer to our paper that discusses some of the
rationale, ideas, potential for such efforts.

> * set up tags for semantic tools with enrico in debtags, and go through
>   everything in the archive that looks like rdf and tag it.
>

Hmmm... whereas "semantic data" probably makes sense, it seems to me
that nowadays, the "Semantic Web" discourse if more generally coined as
"Linked Data"... it's mainly a marketing issue, since the concepts are
quite the same, AFAIU.

>   the new tags are devel::lang:sparql, works-with-format::rdf:{json-ld,
>   n3,turtle,ntriples,xml} and works-with::semantic-data.
>   
>   we might want to go into details later and provide information about
>   which packages are reasoners, converters etc (use::converting, we
>   mgiht add use::reasoning), but at least we've got a starting point for
>   identifying our tools.
>

Great.

> the next thing i'd like to tackle is debtags, which should really be
> available in rdf. originally, what i had in mind was creating a
> dedicated exporter from the dumps[1], but given that debtags are visible
> in udd, and udd is (at least partially) exported in rdf already, i might
> just as well extend that.
>

I haven't considered these, AFAIR, so I don't have much to tell for the
moment.

> iain, obergix, will you be at debconf/-camp for a bof?
>

I'll be in Heidelberg between 18th and 21st, and would love to discuss /
hack on these topics.

Btw, I've seen that Matthias Klumpp intends to present efforts on
AppStream in Debian at the Debconf (see
http://blog.tenstral.net/2015/08/appstreamdep-11-for-everyone-beta.html
) and I feel like there's some overlap between metadata in AppStream and
Linked Data / Semantic Web which is mainly a means to more
interoperability for me.

Hope this helps, and looking forward to seeing your progress until we
meet IRL.

Best regards,


> [1] http://debtags.debian.net/exports/
>

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