[Freedombox-discuss] Some advice on moving Plinth forward?

Daniel Bryan danbryan at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 07:53:18 UTC 2012


I love the idea of GPG for WebID, though that's a much deeper problem to
solve than basic configuration so I reckon I'll leave something like that
alone for the moment :)

dyndns could be in the same boat, not sure.

Getting Apache2 up and running with simple setup would be a huge win, but
its configuration is notoriously complex so I don't feel comfortable trying
to implement that first off.

Personal XMPP servers might be a good candidate for a quick win. Could
incorporate some simple domain name setup, and some kind of system that can
verify that your box has ownership of a particular domain that you want it
to. Makes me wonder about the scope here, really - should we then have
forms for creating accounts for friends? Should we integrate guides for
using stuff like OTR Chat? Do we also then give the user a nudge in the
installation of privacy-respecting chat clients on their desktop or mobile?

Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
> server component on a desktop?


How do you mean?

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho
<melvincarvalho at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 11 February 2012 07:47, Daniel Bryan <danbryan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Not sure whether I've actually posted to the list before but I've been
> > closely following FreedomBox since late 2010.
> >
> > I got a chance to talk to Bdale a little at Linux Conf. Au 2012 and I
> > decided to have a go at hacking on Plinth.
> >
> > I'm keen to get started, and I've been discussing it with Alistair
> Davidson,
> > who's a UX guy.
> >
> > Basically we want to rapidly prototype a simple end-user service
> > configuration system. Does anyone have an idea of what it'd be really
> good
> > to get up and running? Web server? Routing? GPG / other ident. stuff?
>
> I think GPG is a given.  It's going to be important to have a strong
> passphrase.
>
> Apache 2 I think makes most sense as a web server.  It should run HTTP
> with a self signed certificate.
>
> Apart from in Eben Moglen's original "freedom in the cloud" talk
> dyndns has not come up much, but I'd suggest that would be really
> nice.  See below:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA&t=37m30s
>
> I'd encourage people to use the same key for GPG and a WebID, this is
> what I do and have had excellent results.  There's some code to
> convert here:
>
> https://gist.github.com/1505613
>
> Aside from sending your GPG key to a key server you can also put it in
> your homepage/user profile using some simple HTML5 markup.  It's quite
> easy I can provide the markup when we're ready.
>
> I think this combination will be one of the strongest identity
> solutions anywhere.  And matches quite closely Eben's original vision,
> and extends to all the other cool stuff that's been mentioned on the
> list.
>
> James mentioned privoxy too.  I'm sure there are other points to be
> added such as xmpp, monkeysphere, tor etc.
>
> Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
> server component on a desktop?
>
> >
> > We'll eventually need to have some kind of spec for how a developer can
> come
> > along and contribute the configuration builder for a given service to
> Plinth
> > in a standard format, but for now I think it'd be best to focus on
> usability
> > and user experience.
> >
> > Has anyone else been looking particularly at this stuff? I'm sort of a
> bit
> > lost for a start, but I have spare time and I reckon I'm a pretty killer
> > Python dev so if I can get some direction to push me over the edge
> that'd be
> > great :)
> >
> > Daniel
> >
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