[Pkg-electronics-devel] [Ghdl-discuss] Solutions of "Debian package maintainer has retired"

[Christiano]

After researching better and reading this manual:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
I saw that needs a knowledge that at the moment I'm not, and I could do
more harm than help.

Thanks for the support.


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Wesley J. Landaker <wjl at icecavern.net>wrote:

> On Friday, July 12, 2013 02:32:24 Christiano wrote:
> > Hi, I have read this:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548
> >
> > I have applied to be the new maintainer.
>
> That's awesome that you're interested and motivated! GHDL definitely needs
> some care.
>
> However, there are several reason why development has stalled, and there
> are quite a few interested parties you'll certainly want to
> collaborate with, so please make sure you know the whole story about the
> current state of things between GHDL and Debian before diving in
> head first. =)
>
> I'd suggest to please start with my message here (also attached) in which
> I'd try to summarize the state of things from my perspective, and
> the following thread which followed:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ghdl-discuss@gna.org/msg01725.html
>
> Then at least following the links in that message to:
>
>
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013-May/003212.html
>
> and
>
> https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.html
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Wesley J. Landaker" <wjl at icecavern.net>
> To: GHDL discuss list <ghdl-discuss at gna.org>,
> pkg-electronics-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Cc: brian at shapes.demon.co.uk, Joris van Rantwijk <joris at jorisvr.nl>,
> "أحمد المحمودي" <aelmahmoudy at sabily.org>, Jon Taylor <dosadi82 at gmail.com>,
> Artur Rona <ari-tczew at tlen.pl>, Tristan Gingold <tgingold at free.fr>
> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:39:18 -0600
> Subject: GHDL and Debian
> On Sunday, May 26, 2013 04:07:47 Brian Drummond wrote:
> > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 18:16 -0700, Jon Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed Ubuntu latest on my new laptop, and when attempting
> > > to get GHDL installed I found out about this:
> > >
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548
> > >
> >
> > TL/DR : if you're not up to building gcc from source, sorry there will
> > be a wait.
> >
> > I knew Wesley was looking into this but I didn't know he gave up from
> > time pressures; he only reported this to Debian, not here.
>
> Well, I'm not *completely* dead yet. =) I haven't retired from Debian, nor
> have I'm *totally* given up -- but, this isn't the first time I've
> mentioned
> some troubles (and had somewhat disheartening replies), e.g.:
>
> https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2012-01/msg00007.html
>
> But yes, sadly, I'm very strapped for time in relation to what the GHDL
> package in Debian requires. Due to the many problems with keeping GHDL up-
> to-date and working with new compilers and on all currently-support Debian
> architectures <https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ghdl>, just
> keeping GHDL *working* in Debian (not even counting upgrades or anything)
> has become a lot more work than it used to be. Although I plan to continue
> to contribute how I can, I really am hoping to find someone(s) to adopt the
> GHDL Debian package.
>
> Now, the current Debian GHDL package in unstable does work fine currently,
> due to some NMU package work done by Artur Rona. The package is removed
> from
> Debian's testing, which means GHDL will not go into stable Debian releases
> currently, but it is usable on any Debian system by pointing to the
> unstable
> repository and installing from there.
>
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/ghdl.html
>
> Joris van Rantwijk also has made some upgraded deb packages outside of the
> Debian infrastructure, which are available here:
>
> http://jorisvr.nl/ghdl_debian.html
>
> I really want GHDL to succeed and to work well in Debian, and I'll do what
> I
> can to help, but I'm not sure I have time to champion it any more;
> certainly
> I do not have time in the near future. A good path forward may be to put
> together a team of interested folks to maintain a good Debian package going
> forward, either based on my work in Git <git://git.debian.org/git/collab-
> maint/ghdl.git> (which needs some changes to get up to date), or starting
> from Joris' external package (which needs some changes to follow Debian's
> package requirements), and/or by integrating Debianization more closely
> into
> upstream development (which BTW, could grealy benefit from moving to Git).
>
> Of course, I'd love to also see us in the Debian+GHDL niche collaborating
> more efficiently and directly with the current upstream (which currently
> appears to me to de facto be Brian Drummond, although the original author,
> Tristan Gingold may still be working on it as well) as well as package
> maintainers from Ubuntu and Fedora and getting more of the hacks that
> distros are having to do into GHDL upstream, but it seems to me that is
> going to require at least one someone with enough time and motivation to
> coordinate things.
>
> Anyway, I'm cross-posting this to GHDL's ghdl-discuss and the Debian pkg-
> electronics team mailing lists, and CCing those directly involved in those
> two threads, or if I mentioned you by name in this e-mail. For those
> interested in the state of GHDL and Debian, I'd suggest subscribing to both
> of those mailing lists.
>
> Also, here are links to the two relevent threads I'm connecting with this
> e-
> mail, as I don't think all interested parties are all fully connected and
> communicating yet. =)
>
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013-
> May/003212.html
>
> https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.html
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/attachments/20130713/b3637177/attachment.html>