Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

[Erwan David]

Le Fri 16/12/2005, Michael Koch disait
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:32:11AM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> > Le Wed 14/12/2005, Michael Koch disait
> > 
> > > I would like that you check the facts before writing such words.
> > > 
> > > You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help
> > > system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other
> > > thinks don't work either. Upstream Eclipse 3.1.1 don't works with free
> > > java runtimes at all because of broken memory management in JDT.
> > 
> > It works perfectly without mozilla. It needs a browser but that's why
> > every browser package has a Provides: www-browser, so the dependency
> > should be on www-browser, not mozilla-browser.
> 
> Not all packages providing www-browser export the needed shared library
> for the embedded browser in Eclipse, which is the default and preferred
> way in Eclipse upstream as Billy wrote.
>  
> > And that doies not explain th gnome dependency, which is heavier, and
> > tottaly inadequate and, I repeat DANGEROUS.
> 
> Eclipse doesn't depend on gnome, just on some libraries gnome provides.
> Many applications do this. That is neither heavy nor totally inadequate.
> Our goal is to make Eclipse ready-to-use after a simple



> 'apt-get install eclipse'

No eclipse (the software) depends on *gtk* libs. Even eclipse.org does
not cite gnome as a requirements. *YOU* impose gnome.
 
> To make this happen we have to depend on some stuff that may not be
> needed but is needed in the default configuration of Eclipse. When you
> don't need this features, don't use them.
> 
> It is definitely NOT DANGEROUS. Data loss would be DANGEROUS.

Gnome IS a danger becaéuse its goal is to impose a tatlly inadequate
way of using a computer to people who do not want it. Gnome is
contrary to the freedom of the user.

-- 
Erwan David